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Dannyboy53
August 16, 2014 at 11:54 am
This is one of the goals of the Kenyan & Company to bring about divisiveness, which they have done. A few Blacks realize they have been used and lied to by Democrats for years but many do not. When something like this happens we will always have those that use the resulting chaos simply for their own gain. They don’t give a rats ass about the kid that was shot, only how much beer, wine and money they can steal. I would think that is pretty obvious. I’m also surprised there hasn’t been more killing by the cops given their penchant for doing so in the past.
It’s my belief we can expect to see more crap like this in the future…and see it more often.
The Soffitrat
August 16, 2014 at 1:22 pm
“…but many do not.”
The vast majority do not. Even if they do, they will never vote Republican. Instead, they will find that middle ground known as anarchy. Hence, you are right. We should expect more and more of this.
Jamie
August 16, 2014 at 11:02 pm
Rat, I think you are wrong! Perhaps I’m a bit naive but I met many folks in the Army that were of many races and religions and saw the what was happening and got smart and got ready. I would welcome those folks to stand by me in a heart beat. I think you are confusing race for attitude in the have and havenots. We have seen major stupidity and riots carried on by whites celebrating stupid crap like winning a championship game.
Rat, Do you believe in the collective? Do you believe that white trash is some how better than black trash? or even Hispanic or Asian trash? Isn’t trash, just TRASH?
Perhaps in your area you have to deal with the EBT types that are black. Where I live it might be Whites, Hispanics or native Americans. So I just watch out for Blacks or should I protect myself from the Aryan nation, MS-13 and Asian gangs.
Assholes, bitches dickheads and out right thugs are everywhere and no one race has an exclusive contract of being thugs. I don’t believe in the collective of any sort good or bad. I believe in the individual and that is what I work on knowing and supporting.
The Soffitrat
August 16, 2014 at 11:31 pm
What you speak of are (almost) inconsequential numbers. No. I will go far as to say totally inconsequential numbers. For anyone to play with those odds is egocentric and dangerous. You might have the luxury of dealing on an individual basis, and that would make you a part of an inconsequential minority, yourself. Can you fathom a million people? In a two square mile area? Then, you get the real picture. It will not turn out the way we’d like. No matter how much we will it so. But then, these decisions are still a personal matter. A personal choice. As long as one doesn’t get others harmed. We have seen it time and again. Blacks (by and large) are tribal racists. Racists who, when gathered together (in a survival scenario), will just as soon eat you as to look at you. I won’t give them the opportunity. Missouri is just the most recent reminder. But then, there are some preppers I see around that I won’t be associating with either.
Jamie
August 16, 2014 at 11:51 pm
rat, You have your point of view and I have mine. Perhaps you have the right mindset for survival. I think mine is better or at least something I can live with in the long run. I understand your point of view though I don’t agree with it. I’m quite sure there are plenty of white trash in my area that would have no problem attacking me. But if you prefer to mark your targets differently that is on you. You know your neighbors and neighborhood better than I do. I hope you would give me a little credit of knowing my neighborhood and neighbors better than you. You say I’m wrong to trust people of a certain type based on your experience. Yet I had a completely different experience and you say I can’t trust them. Rat so you think counts the most about people? 1. Color of their skin. 2. The words they use or 3. The actions they take? The actions they take is all that matter to me and that means good, bad or indifferent!
The Soffitrat
August 17, 2014 at 12:05 am
Jamie, I trust few. Nobody I don’t know. Just how many of those in the military were truly trustworthy? Half? Three quarters? One quarter? What, then, does that translate to? One in 250,000? Not good odds. Those decrease (or increase) based on location. Anyway you slice it, those are horrible odds. Pretending a leopard will change its stripes is not on my short list of things to do. Idaho is unique in this discussion, but most of the country will have real problems with this. It will be a little too late to reconsider when they are coming through the door. Google South Africa genocide.
Jamie
August 17, 2014 at 12:36 am
Actually about 80% of my NCO’s and squad member were black and one hispanic and had my back though I had to deal with a few sexists of all colors. The Army was a bit different than regular society. Yes I did and would trust them with my life!
I’m sure you know individuals of all types and certain racial or sex segments may be dickheads. That does not make everyone who happens to be …. a dickhead. Bill and Hillary Clinton are damn white and I sure would not trust them except to put a knife in my back if the had an opportunity to profit from it.
I don’t say you should trust everyone or even folks that look or talk a certain way. Know I don’t think that being white makes you a great person nor being black makes you evil. Every person has good point and bad points.
Now rat if you want to get tribal and say only white people are wonderful and worthy of trust. All Hispanics, blacks, Asians and native Americans are evil and unworthy regardless of what they do as citizens. Well then I have to say you are a racist.
I don’t care about colors,religions, ethnicity, sex. I care about folks that are about the Constitution about folks that dig in and work and aren’t afraid to do it spite of the PTBs.
The Soffitrat
August 17, 2014 at 1:08 am
These are the issues that must be discussed and resolved now. Hell, we are all racists. Names will mean less than nothing when the ‘event’ takes place. Reality will vary drastically. From individual consideration to grouping. Depending on location, demographics (numbers), income, stress levels, availability, leadership, and more. A “rule of thumb” will be important for everyone to develop ‘prior’ to the ‘event’ taking place. Sounds like you have made your decision, but most have not even thought about this.
Jamie
August 17, 2014 at 1:26 am
rat I prefer to think we can see both good and bad in people without throwing around terms like racist or sexist or all those other “ists and isms”. I don’t think you are a racist, though others might think that because they look at the surface and won’t dig down and understand a person’s point of view. If we fear being labled or other simply label people that disagree with us, we can never move beyond all that superficial crap that people seem to fixate upon rather than look deeper into themselves and be honest and see the world as it is, instead of how we wish it to be.
The Soffitrat
August 17, 2014 at 3:02 am
If the truth be known, I allow several black friends to fish on my lakes. Also several Hispanics. I am still considered by the Hispanics as their Mayor. I regularly admit that I’m a racist. Like to get that off the table up front. It’s such a lame term these days, and I want people to know that I can’t be intimidated. Certainly by a word from a person who only wants to get on top by making me accept looking small. I wear it like a badge of honor, and I’ve found that shuts them up. Then we can move on to an honest, equal, discourse. Many blacks In the next town know me, and know that I’m an honest, no BS, man. Crazy but honest. I treat everyone the same. Until they prove they don’t deserve it. Then I can be their worst nightmare. I am also loyal. I have had many conversations where blacks level with me on their BS. Although many will create huge problems in Cities of every size, many are not nearly as different from us as they would have us believe. Those will fight and live (exist) with us. Besides… aw both like pot liquor. 🙂
The Soffitrat
August 17, 2014 at 3:39 am
I like people. I don’t like bullies. I don’t like scammers. I don’t like BS’ers. I don’t like liars. That leaves most politicians out. I guess what I’m saying is that although they (local blacks) won’t be a part of my inner circle, we will trade, and we will set up potential alliances. Both will be accomplished with mutual respect. What we will do with any rougue groups (and there will be many), we will do together. My alliances will be (are) varied, extensive, and designed for favorable survivability expectations. We already have plans in place that would make your head spin. Opsec has not been hard to maintain. Even with frequent, or long term visitors. Nobody needs to know those details.
rogerunited
August 17, 2014 at 11:55 am
I saw on the front page of a paper (that I didn’t buy) that the state police were taking over policing in Ferguson.
The Soffitrat
August 17, 2014 at 9:04 pm
On Holder’s orders, I bet.
Dannyboy53
August 18, 2014 at 8:02 pm
That would not surprise me ‘rat. I have lost touch the past several days with what is going on in the world. But I am convinced, just like there have been in the decades past, that there are communist agitators involved in this mess in Ferguson. They look for opportunities such as this to stir the pot up some more. And I also wonder, as I have during incidents in the past why certain groups respond to a situation by looting and destroying the property of others that had nothing to do with whatever sparked the event. That is juvenile and base animal-like behavior. I know there are whites involved in this event going on in Missouri and I agree there is white trash just a surely as there is black trash. But someone explain to me why it appears to be a majority of blacks any time something like this happens? (communist agitators maybe?) When any people have a valid complaint, why must they resort to a scorched earth tactic to bring attention to the issue?
Personally, I figure if you are genuinely concerned about seeking Justice then you will seek such in a legal manner. If not, as in this case in Ferguson, you lose all credibility and any chance of support from me.
The Soffitrat
August 18, 2014 at 10:03 pm
And in that vein, I have been watching RT TV. There, you will see Sharpton and all sorts of blatant anti-American propaganda. There, may one find a network associate to the radicals of Fecguson. Not to excuse our own MSM, but those people are in it for the greed as much as ideology. RT is in it for the advancement of Putin’s Russia. The downfall of America.
Jamie
August 18, 2014 at 11:13 pm
Rat: I think the flames will be stoked between the have and have nots of the middleclass and the lower classes. Personally that is where I see the the elites/PTBs focusing on and flaming resentments. As long as the PTBs are left alone the are happy for us proles/plebes and all those modern day equivalents fight each other those at the top feel safe! That is the biggest reason I hate it when people make it about race, religions or sex is because it is the “divide and conquer” strategy of keeping the “lower classes” fighting each other so we don’t fight the PTBs!
The media and the PTBs are inviting in looters from STL proper to engage in a free for all of looting and violence. These vile people, the PTBs don’t give a damn about Fergeson, the store owners nor Mike Brown or what he did as a bully to steal a damn box of “Swisher sweet” cigars that probably cost less than a damn phone payment or internet access for a month. This was no “gentle giant” that never hurt anyone, this was a 6 foot 4 inch 290 pound bully that used his size to intimidate and bully people.
I hate the militarization of the cops and using SWAT teams to bust Amish milk sellers and all of the other crap of Obama’s force just as strong and just as powerful as the US military used in the states. I’m guessing the folks of Fergeson Mo. are starting to realize what it means to them. That shit was funny when it happened in Boston Mass. when the PTBs went door to door! Wasn’t it?
The Soffitrat
August 18, 2014 at 11:55 pm
You are so right! This is the continued taking of property and the (natural) rights by which we enjoy that freedom (liberty). In that respect it is the taking of our liberty. The PTwB are doing this through a successful campaign to set us against one another. Having never realized how we have been manipulated. Everything is going exactly as planned, and we are the last country they have to take wealth from. The rest of the world has voluntarily ceded their wealth, their property, and their rights to own and hold property.
Dannyboy53
August 19, 2014 at 1:28 am
Exactly. I believe Sharpton and others like him to be communists agitators whose job it is to keep blacks stirred up over any issue, real or perceived. Most (if not ALL) of what Sharpton has been involved in for decades has been of the “perceived” persuasion. When looking at his history it’s obvious he is a liar and a race baiter and a stringed puppet of forces much bigger than his stinking little fat man’s ass.
There is no doubt in my mind there are several agitators pushing the communist agenda in Missouri, some media are even reporting the Revolution Club Chicago (Communist) getting in on the act. Well, they were not the first on the scene!
A large part of our early history has been “rewritten” to accommodate the story that blacks are being force fed, of course all of it based on slavery. Anger has been built through the years and emotion is what a large majority of blacks are acting on today and in the past. I certainly are NOT excusing their behavior, in fact I would go so far as to say it has been criminal in most instances going back to the riots in the 60’s.
Nothing among a nation of people can be so bad as to cause one race of people in that group to riot and then steal or destroy the property of others…NOTHING. I am convinced that the ONLY way this will ever clear up is if black people get their head out of their asses and see the truth. It isn’t the “white man” that has his boot on their necks, it is the very regime they have come to depend on for subsistence for so many years. I have never owned slaves and none of them have ever been in chains, I owe them (or any one else for that matter) nothing. Specifically and consistently it’s been the Democrats and the blacks are being stupid and buying into their lies.
If me and my many relatives/friends over the years had the predilection to riot each time we felt we were screwed by someone we would probably have a record of causing millions of dollars damage to public or private owned property also. Or some of us would be dead! So what does their action prove? That many of them are thieves and predators that justify these actions by feeling society owes them “reparations” and others are simply following because it seemed like the right thing to do at the time.
My wife is a Cherokee Indian and her people, her race, have never caused the destruction and death in modern times on this scale over this length of time to this country or it’s citizens like the black race has. And no one, in my opinion, has as much right as the American Indian to do so if that had been the path they chose. As I remember our history, we didn’t enslave the Indian, bring them here, then turn them loose, it was the other way around! I look at all this as a matter of CHARACTER, how many of us have had their loved ones killed by the Indian or their homes and businesses burned in retaliation for what the “white man” did?
We were once a nation of laws but that’s gone to hell in a hand basket. Now we are a nation of selfish, greedy criminals out to get some payback for their own corrupt view of history. Not thinking of what we are doing to our country, only of what we as individuals want.
How much more of America is there left to TAKE?
The Soffitrat
August 19, 2014 at 3:09 pm
Some people still want to insist on things being as the “want” to believe them to be. They refuse, even at this late stage, to alter their belief that people are inherently good. While that may be true, in today’s influence and with the nanny, meddling, Government we have today, it is a child’s mentality. A dangerous mentality. I choose to believe that people are inherently lazy, evil, and bad. Until they prove otherwise. This is the price we must pay for giving our trust all of these years. The cost of losing our sanity. The cost of losing our law and the enforcement of that law. We have given until there is nothing left to give. Just look at our lifestyles, our personal debts, and the declining standard of living we seem to accept as though we deserve it.
rogerunited
August 19, 2014 at 3:51 pm
I don’t know if this crowd would find this interesting, but maybe. The perspective is a bit different from most.
http://therightstuff.biz/2014/08/19/the-militarization-of-the-puhleeeeze/
here’s a teaser:
“Reading the feed from #Ferguson makes me want the cops to just go weapons free on all of these crybabies.”
The Soffitrat
August 19, 2014 at 4:01 pm
It is nothing more than a media event.
rogerunited
August 19, 2014 at 4:21 pm
Is anything ever, anymore?
Dannyboy53
August 19, 2014 at 4:39 pm
Exactly, just a communist coup in my opinion. I haven’t a clue as to how this will actually play out but TPTB will make hay with it at some point…they have to.
Dannyboy53
August 19, 2014 at 4:32 pm
It is my belief that since Adam & Eve corrupted mankind and the entire world that ALL mankind is ALWAYS inherently evil.
Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Genesis 6:5
For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
Mark 7:21
But we are all like an unclean thing, And all our righteousness’s are like filthy rags
Isaiah 64:6
The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked.
Jeremiah 17:9
Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me.
Psalm 51:5
The wicked are estranged from the womb; They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies.
Psalm 58:3
We could go on with this but what is the point…mankind is evil from birth. We do not learn from the world how to sin as we grow up, it’s in our nature. We all know when children see no discipline our little angels will eventually turn into little monsters!!
Many folks have the TENDENCY to be good people for the most part throughout their lives if they have been taught self discipline, consideration of others, etc. We all know people of this caliber but according to the evidence presented above, in no way are humans INHERENTLY good.
Chaos, extreme suffering and probably even death is in our future, more importantly the death of a once grand nation. All because of the vile nature of mankind.
rogerunited
August 19, 2014 at 5:53 pm
Free will is a bitch! If only Adam and Eve had confessed and repented instead of trying to hide we might still be living in paradise!
Dannyboy53
August 19, 2014 at 7:06 pm
AMEN to that Roger, I may get kicked out of Paradise my first day. I’m seriously considering breaking Adam’s nose. Mary says she is going to get Eve!
rogerunited
August 19, 2014 at 7:28 pm
Careful Danny!
“23 “For this reason the kingdom of heaven may be compared to a king who wished to settle accounts with his slaves. 24 When he had begun to settle them, one who owed him ten thousand talents was brought to him. 25 But since he did not have the means to repay, his lord commanded him to be sold, along with his wife and children and all that he had, and repayment to be made. 26 So the slave fell to the ground and prostrated himself before him, saying, ‘Have patience with me and I will repay you everything.’ 27 And the lord of that slave felt compassion and released him and forgave him the debt. 28 But that slave went out and found one of his fellow slaves who owed him a hundred denarii; and he seized him and began to choke him, saying, ‘Pay back what you owe.’ 29 So his fellow slave fell to the ground and began to plead with him, saying, ‘Have patience with me and I will repay you.’ 30 But he was unwilling and went and threw him in prison until he should pay back what was owed. 31 So when his fellow slaves saw what had happened, they were deeply grieved and came and reported to their lord all that had happened. 32 Then summoning him, his lord *said to him, ‘You wicked slave, I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. 33 Should you not also have had mercy on your fellow slave, in the same way that I had mercy on you?’ 34 And his lord, moved with anger, handed him over to the torturers until he should repay all that was owed him. 35 My heavenly Father will also do the same to you, if each of you does not forgive his brother from your heart.”
Matthew 18:23-35
“Absolutely nothing will help us if we are not lenient toward the weaknesses of men and forgive them. For how can we hope that God will forgive us if we do not forgive others?”
-St Nikolai Velimirovich
The Soffitrat
August 19, 2014 at 8:02 pm
Well? That about says it all… 🙂
Dannyboy53
August 19, 2014 at 8:10 pm
Maybe I was a wee bit hasty in my judgement! My guess is a drive-by cussin’ is out of the question?! 🙂
rogerunited
August 19, 2014 at 8:14 pm
Maybe a sarcastic “bless your heart” 😉